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The Odds Brothers Podcast | Episode 2

Point spread Shane and Money line Mark are here to share their thoughts on this week in Sports betting. $5 parlay of the week to bad beats and sweet treats. Get the know-how you need from the experts you can trust. This is The Odds Brothers Podcast, new episodes every Friday!

 Shane 

Welcome everybody episode 2, season 1 of the Odds Brothers Podcast. We're coming to you from the Betly Sportsbook inside the New Southland Casino and Hotel. Make sure you follow the Odds Brothers podcast on Apple podcasts and Spotify. Today's show is being presented by Betly online Sportsbook download the Betly Arkansas Sportsbook app today from Southland.betly.com or from the Apple App Store. I'm point spread Shane, with me today as always, money line Mark how you doing today, Mark? 

 Mark 

I'm doing well, let's talk a little bit about the latest on the mobile app. Yes, you know everybody in Arkansas within the boundaries of the state. You can download the Betly Arkansas app and bet and wager by simply going to, If you have an Android device, Just go to Southland.betly.com. And if you have an apple, just go to your Apple store and download the Betly app. If you're going to Southland.betly.com, you'll notice it will say, Arkansas. Betly, Arkansas. Download those apps and wager on the Betly mobile app. 

 Shane 

Yes, because when you look at the App Store I'm sure you'll find other states that are part of the Betly family like West Virginia up there, right? 

 Mark 

Absolutely Yep. 

 Shane 

But the Betly West Virginia app will not work. In Arkansas, how you bring it up right? 

 Mark 

No for some reason it just won't, well you can bring it up. 

 Shane 

But you're not gonna be able to wager on it. 

 Mark 

You can look at it...no you can’t. 

 Shane 

And if you're in West Virginia, listen and you download the Arkansas app, like we're telling you guess what? 

 Mark 

Yep, can't wager on it. 

 Shane 

Make sure you get the state specific app, wherever you may be listening, and some states hopefully coming soon that we can add on and share with you as we get down the line. Uh, so say I do that. 

 Mark 

All right, so you get it. 

 Shane 

I signed up for the app. 

 Mark 

You get it, you sign up and if you do, currently we have a one of the promotions. Our biggest promotion going on in my opinion right now is a $200 risk free first bet. So you sign up. Be a first-time bettor. You got to make a minimum of a $10 bet and the odds must be minus 250 or greater. If you meet all the minimum requirements which is located on the Betly app. And you win, if you lose that bet that first bet you will unlock a free bet equal to the amount of your first wager up to $250. 

 Shane 

Alright, so you don't have to wager $250. 

 Mark 

No, you do not. 

 Shane 

But at least $10. 

 Mark 

You can bet $20. Yeah at least $10. Yep, Yep, you can't go in and bet a dollar. 

 Shane 

Now for those of you that may not have tuned in the latter inaugural podcast, how about that our first ever podcast to talk about what the odds mean, and whatever? Give a quick recap on what minus 250 or greater means. What do you have to do for that? Like how does that get determined if you do a parlay? 

 Mark 

So, when you change, so if you. Would do it minus 250. Yes, minus 2- 

 Shane 

Yeah, so you know this, this isn't necessarily a straight bet. You could do a $10. 10 team parlay if you wanted to as your risk free bet so the minus 250 how you going to know if that's the of a parlay, let’s say. 

 Mark 

Right, right, right, absolutely. 

 Shane 

Together when you combine everything, how are you going to find that out? 

 Mark 

By looking at your app at the bottom of your app, it will tell you a total odds, total odds. 

 Shane 

OK. 

 Mark 

At the bottom of the app. 

 Shane 

So minus 251 not good. 

 Mark 

Minus 251 not good. 

 Shane 

Nope, minus 250 all the way into the positive territory is good. 

 Mark 

Is good, Yep. 

 Shane 

All right and for those that may not want to go back and listen to the first podcast, and you're just saying, why don't you tell me right now Shane, what that means. If you got positive odds, you're taking more of what we would call the long shots or the underdogs to win. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

If you get positive action. If you keep taking known favorites like big time, almost can't lose type of favorites you'll be way below their 250 mark and then the risk free bet does not apply. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Mark 

OK, you gotta have a little risk, put a little risk in to it. 

 Shane 

Yes, all right. So that's good. Yeah, up to $250 this free. Why not download the app? Guess what? That's free? Take your first bet. $10 minimum up to 250 your sweat if you lose that, that's a free bet. 

 Mark 

That's free, Bet. Yeah, free bet. If you lose, if you win winner winner chicken dinner. 

 Shane 

Yeah you get your winnings, so all that's very very good. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

All right, so in relation to getting the education on for everybody that might be listening, we have a segment on the show called. Be a sports wise guy. Last week we talked about what do those number mean? The minus 110s, the minus 250s as we just talked about. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

Now, the ways in this week the ways you can. Place bets in the sportsbook. And you hear this called a couple of different things at the end of the day, it's money line bet. But what else do you hear at the counter that people may think it's the same thing and it might be. 

 Mark 

That's right, so on the retail side, a lot of the agents will hear. I want to bet, let's say the Cardinals straight up. 

 Shane 

Yes. 

 Mark 

Alright so in retail side that's in our terms, that's money line. However, some folks think that's points or well there are run line I guess would be in baseball, but the money line is money line is straight up meaning you just want that team to win. You don't want no points added or subtracted from the teams, you just want it straight up. That's money line, but our agents will ask you, do you want money line or point spread? Just to clarify, to make sure you're getting the ticket that you should be getting or that you want. 

 Shane 

So, keep in mind when you're doing it on the app like the Betly app, it's usually the middle of the three columns that you see next to the game or the team, the market, whatever you're doing. It'll be the middle one that doesn't have any minus 1.5 or 14.5 don't have any numbers that would be on the left. So, the money line is strictly that just at the end of the game or match or whatever who won, who won, and then that's as simple as it gets. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

So we see a lot of first time sportsbettors do that. It involves no calculation in your mind and let's see, I they lost but I still won. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

Yeah, because you got enough points to cover the difference, you know and point spreads do not round up and we'll talk about I'm sure the point spreads in the next episode. 

 Mark 

Yep, that's right. 

 Shane 

And then of course there's an over under if you're paying attention to the app, that'll be the far-right column If you're looking at it and then generally other than baseball obviously or soccer or something like that. It has a higher total than you'll see for point spread. So, football, for instance, over unders in the NFL range anywhere from the high 30s to the middle, maybe occasionally upper 50s. If you get two really high profile teams going against, really basketball college games mid 150s to 200, NBA games they're almost always 200 plus. 

 Mark 

You'd be shocked at how those odds makers come so close to that they make you think when it comes to those points on total over under. 

 Shane 

They do, so we'll get into how you get those and maybe some strategies. So, speaking of the strategy on the Wiseguy segment, money line. And let's let's see if you agree with this. 

 Mark 

Alright, since I am money line Mark. 

 Shane 

Most, right, I look and see what the point spread is on a game, and let's say, and we're going to just use this for instance, the Cardinals today you know, minus 1.5 against the Cubs. So, Saint Louis got to win by 2. And let's say you look at the odds, and that's minus 110. 

 Mark 

Right. 

 Shane 

For just a run and a half, you look at the money line and you're getting even money to win the game somehow. 

Yeah, that'd be a great bet. 

 Shane 

Or even maybe minus 110 the same odds, or maybe even minus 120, which isn't that much more juice as we would like to call it to not even have to worry about the run in half. 

 Mark 

No, yeah. 

 Shane 

That's when I like to take some money lines. Now the best money lines obviously. Or when you think the favorite isn't going to win at all and depending on how underdog-ish they are. You can get plus what I mean I've seen. 

 Mark 

And plus 180, plus 150. 

 Shane 

Yeah, in individual games exactly. 

 Mark 

Can you Imagine if you know if the if the Cardinals are favored just straight money line plus 150. I'm taking that all day. Every day. 

 Shane 

Yeah, yeah. 

 Mark 

Well, I think they went straight up money line. 

 Shane 

And by yeah, and on the opposite side, like the Yankees are the best team in baseball right now. Sadly to say by record. Anyway, I'm not a big fan, but you know, when you're just looking at it from a sports betting perspective and we urge everybody. There's a lot of fandom out there which you're going to hear in the sweet treats and bad beats segment here. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

What could happen in that regard. I try not to bet with the emotional aspect. 

 Mark 

Ah, see, I tell you everybody to bet with their heart. That’s great for the book. 

 Shane 

Well, it usually is. It usually is and we see that we see that with some big name teams like the Cowboys in football. a lot of Cowboys fans don't matter what the line or the game is. They're betting it like they're- 

 Mark 

Yeah, that's right. 

 Shane 

-Betting the Cowboys hell or high water. 

 Mark 

Cowboys in this area. The Grizzlies. 

 Shane 

Right, so the money line to me. If you like underdogs, is the best bet out of the two being point spread, generally speaking. 

 Mark 

Generally speaking, you sometimes will get better I mean more times not, you'll get better odds in the point spreads though. 

 Shane 

You will, if you're betting favorites. 

 Mark 

Yes, Yep, exactly. 

 Shane 

Especially yeah, Yep, and if the point spreads only like in baseball under two runs. Like in football, for me, if it's under a field goal, I'm just taking the money line 'cause chances are there's not that big of a discrepancy between the two. 

 Mark 

Right. 

 Shane 

Rather than risk getting beat by a point or two points, most NFL games are within three to six points at the end of the day, you get some blowouts, so most of them come down to that. 

 Mark 

Right? If both teams can play. 

 Shane 

Right. 

 Mark 

Sometimes you wonder if one team's even out there playing. 

 Shane 

And so as far as the point spreads go, we'll get that the next week. We'll tell you, or I'll tell you what my what I look for when I'm putting a bet together. But as far as money lines go, I typically do not take money lines on this or two things. One, underdogs that I really think can win outright and you get better odds that way. Or two. If it's so close where the point spreads under, like an NFL under three Major League Baseball under two runs, yeah, I tend to look more toward the money line and then you know. If you're trying to I guess wrap up a five team 16 parlay and you get an even money shot on a toss up game. 

 Mark 

Right. 

 Shane 

Basically, then to me, it's pretty much a money line all the way. 

 Mark 

Yeah, I'm looking when I look at money line I'm looking at I'm like you I'm looking at what if it's a uh, underdog that I think is going to win I'm going to take him if it's close and the odds are in my favor. I'm going to look at that money line. You know if it's close and the team I think is going to win is going to be minus 240 or 250, I might. I might stretch it, you know, throw something else in there or just go to a different game itself. 

 Shane 

Yeah, it's, I mean. Tell you quick story on a parlay last year that I did. I don't know why I felt the need to take it to a five team. The four team to me seemed alright, but I went ahead and squeezed another 5 teamer in on a game that I really hadn't looked at much, but I thought, well, it's a toss up game. Let me go ahead and take the money line on the home team and it was an NFL game and usually home teams have a, If you look at the odds somewhere between 60 70% win rate at home, which is why they call home field advantage and football is basically a field goal, is what they bake it in. 

 Mark 

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely look at Seattle the Seahawks. 

 Shane 

Yep, and when you know they lose by a point. I didn't even want to play that game and somehow through it in because why instead of $180. Four team parlay that extra team and a five team parlay jumped it up about 80 additional dollars on something and I thought well they should win this game at home. You know that's just the thing of getting a little too stretchy ingredient. It all depends on what you're trying to do. If you're having fun, it's one thing. 

 Mark 

Right. 

 Shane 

Like in greyhound and horse racing, the guy or gal that sits down and there's 12 races and they try to bet every single one of the 12 races generally doesn't come out ahead at the end of the day, they handpicked the three or four they liked the best and throw it together. 

 Mark 

Right. 

 Shane 

They had a decent shot of making a profit that's in the general speaking. So yeah, after that I go you know what, I'm just, whatever I put on paper, even if it wins $5 like I told myself I'm not going to try to squeeze an extra team in there to get 80 or 8 or whatever the amount might be if I really wasn't confident in it to begin with and I'm just throwing it into to try to increase my win. 

 Mark 

Now was that where the bad beats idea came from, does that mean that qualify for the bad beat? 

 Shane 

That goes into great segue and the bad beats and the sweet treats segment. We really don't have necessarily in order this so which one do you want to talk first? Remember the bad beats are those that, folks that came awful damn close to hitting a big ticket or parlay, or in this case, everybody was on somebody and then that somebody let him down. 

 Mark 

Yeah, let's go, let's yeah, let's go right into the bad beats 'cause in this area anybody who bet the Arkansas Razorbacks that win the College World Series. If anybody following the College World Series, which I'm sure a lot of folks were, ‘cause a lot of folks were putting it here at Southland, they were eliminated yesterday. Uh, so your Saturday your Saturday starts your College World Series championship game, it'll be between Oklahoma and Ole Miss, but everybody who had Arkansas to win it. Now that's a bad beat. 

 Shane 

Boy, they had one heck of a ride, didn't they? 

 Mark 

They did. They played, they played really well, though they can't be disappointed. Making it to Omaha is a goal for most college baseball teams. 

 Shane 

It is and I happened to talk to an Arkansas fan yesterday who watched the game and then I saw him later that night. He goes, you know, Arkansas lost didn’t ya and I'm like but boy you got right down to the- I mean if they would have won that game they're in. 

 Mark 

They're in, Yep. 

 Shane 

And he’s just like yeah, but we go to Omaha every year and it's the same dang thing. He goes, we can't play the following weekend, you know, and I go, I get, I get how you feel it. You know my hot guys up there in Iowa seem to make the NCAA tournament, but they can't get past the first weekend. 

 Mark 

That's right. 

 Shane 

Sometimes not even past the first day, so I I get how they how they feel like they have such a good team every year that you think one year they could actually get in and and open it up but I I would still be happy for him. But yeah, that was a Homer. A Homer bet a heart bet, fandom bet and you- 

 Mark 

Yeah, so that's right, that's right. 

 Shane 

-Almost got there. 

 Mark 

Almost it definitely qualifies for the bad beats. 

 Shane 

Yeah, now for those that didn't suffer the pain and actually got the sweet treat, what’d you got for us there. 

 Mark 

That's right. So, the sweet treats, so this one comes from the Betly app itself, so a lucky / skilled guest bet $10 on a four team parlay. He bet the Washington Nationals over which was 9.5 points and that was at plus 380 odds. Then bet the pirates under 8.5 at the odds are up plus 440. Marlins over at 6.5 and that is at plus 310. So, you noticing a trend here and the last one was Red Sox over 9.5 at plus 250. So, all long shots for the over under. 

 Shane 

So again all over under to boot, so. 

 Mark 

All over unders to boot. Yep, so he turned that $10 into $3700. -yes. 

 Shane 

What?- Just on a four team over under. 

 Mark 

Four team over under with those odds don't take you know so you can bet a very little bit and win a lot of money. 

 Shane 

I’m not even sure I can comprehend that. Can you say that win one more time? 

 Mark 

$3700, for $10 

 Shane 

For 10 bucks, on a four teamer. Not a ten teamer. 

 Mark 

Yeah, not ten. 

 Shane 

Not some wild star. 

 Mark 

Not a whole lot of prayer, no. Yeah, exactly. 

 Shane 

Wow, so if you did that at the risk free bet you could just throw that risk free right out the door. 

 Mark 

That's right, you don't need it, that's right. 

 Shane 

Door, you don't need that $10 back you got $3700 back. 

 Mark 

That's right. That is a- that's your sweet treat and bed beats for this week. 

 Shane 

Yeah, OK, so we'll swing into that into the $5 parlay game of the week. 

 Mark 

OK! 

 Shane 

Alright, so here's the rules of game Mark and I will give you our five team parlay. Cost you $5 to bet it. The only rule that we have in that is that you're parlay must at least pay 200 or more dollars for that five teams. So that's 40 to 1 odds basically. For $5 now I feel a little bit cheap knowing that $10 turned into 3700, but I do not want to play the $10 four team parlay game and expect to hit that very much so $5 parlay of the week. Five team parlay, who would like to go first? I guess I made you go first last time, so you could either go first or force me to go first this time. 

 Mark 

Yeah, I'll you know I'll just do a little recap of how we did last week real quick before we get into that. 

 Shane 

OK, yes this will take 5 seconds. 

 Mark 

And yeah, that's right crap. We did absolute junk, so yeah, hit the buzzer on that one. 

 Shane 

Blah blah, I don't even know. I don't even know. I think I hit one out of the five last time. 

 Mark 

Yeah, you hit 105. I hit 205. 

 Shane 

It pays it paid me to take the Pittsburgh Pirates of all things, that's it. 

 Mark 

That's right, 105, 205 still pays 0 each. 

 Shane 

So that's when we needed the risk free bet only we didn't bet enough to get the risk free. 

 Mark 

That's right, $5 isn’t going to qualify. 

 Shane 

No, maybe we could throw both of our fives together and get the 10 back. I'm sure that's against the rule too. Alright, so for this week, June 24th. Uh, who do you want to go first? 

 Mark 

Yeah, I'll go first. 

 Shane 

You want me? 

 Mark 

I'll go ahead and go. 

 Mark 

1st and this is going to be the winning ticket, I'll go first. All right, so all my pick five, I didn't do any odds boosts this time like I did last week, so this is just a five team parlay I've got Roy Mcleroy winning the Travelers Championship. That's right, I threw a little golf in this one. 

 Shane 

Wow, OK. 

 Mark 

Well, yeah, and I've got the Cardinals today's run line minus 1.5 and I've got the Giants today run line minus 1.5. I've got the under on the Orioles and the White Sox game and that's under 8.5 for total runs and then on the Dodgers game Atlanta Braves under 9 for total runs. And that $5 bet has a potential winning of $308.85. 

 Shane 

Go big or go home. 

 Mark 

Well, that's right. 

 Shane 

Once again, I think last week while you had odds boost to it, I was going to say your potential payout exceeded mine, not by much, but this week it exceeds it a little bit and then we had a common game involved. You talked about the Cardinals game, right? 

 Mark 

Both oh darn, I thought it was golf. 

 Shane 

The Cardinals game. 

 Mark 

Yes, I did, Yep. 

 Shane 

Yeah, so Saint Louis you you mentioned it was favored to win it outright, but if you wanted to give up the run in half or basically say Saint Louis, gotta win by two runs or more, you get a plus 120 for the odds on that one. At least that's the way it was in my app. 

 Mark 

Yeah I had it at 125 but we're close, yeah? 

 Shane 

OK, we're close. 

 Shane 

More people getting on the Saint Louis Cardinal bandwagon as we speak. 

 Mark 

They should against the Cubs. 

 Shane 

Well here's the thing I you know, I looked it up. They played one series five games up in Chicago early this year. Saint Louis won three out of the five games, but they won by at least two runs. In many cases one was five and I think one was nine runs so they can score runs for one and they tend to when they do win against the Cubs, beat ‘em by more than 1.5 runs and their games at home now. So, they've got this homestand against the Cubs. I'm going to take the Saint Louis minus 1.5. I like Tampa Bay Rays against those pirates. Since they kind of screwed me over last week, I've got a revenge game and hopefully the Tampa Bay Rays can come through. They're also minus 1.5 runs on the favorite for even money. Now. Here's one of them that if you looked and took the money line on the Rays. They're minus 110. So, you could go either way, and it's not going to affect you that bad if you don't want to give up the run and a half here. So I didn't. It didn't quite get me above the $200 mark, so I took the minus 1.5 runs to get there. But if you, if you're a money line guy, that really ain't too bad a juice to take ‘em on the money line. The Giants against the Cincinnati Reds, who were the worst team in baseball. Lost like 20 some then they started to win a little bit and guess what? They are now on a 7 game losing streak, I think that goes to 8 two. Yeah, they're minus 1.5 at a plus 105. 

 Mark 

Yeah, that's what I got. 

 Shane 

So pretty close, all right Baltimore Orioles money line. I like him at plus 145. That's kind of like my juicer tonight. White Sox are kind of shaky, a little bit everybody is talking about, they want to fire the manager and chanting it out in the crowds, I sense a little bit discontent there on the South side of Chicago, so give me the Orioles there. Not that they're a world beater. And then the one I like to Toronto Blue Jays, which are second in the American League East, come going against Milwaukee, who, oddly enough, are second in the National League Central basically tied right now with the Cardinals. They're at home. Plus 125 just to flat out win. the game at home so I like that for a money line to get plus 125 on a home team and a good team at that I think. My $5 parlay had odds uh plus 4870 for a potential winning of $248.62. So, there's your $5 five dollar parlay. Oh yeah, play for the weekend and we'll tell you how that does next week, hopefully at least if we don't hit. 

 Mark 

We have the proof. 

 Shane 

Yeah well somebody wins, and if we don't, maybe it's just one it can be featured on the bad beat section and it better not be those dang pirates that do it to me on the opposite side tonight. So let's hope so, yeah, so we talked about it last week real quick because you used it to get over the mark, what are boosts? If you're looking in the app, they're like another form of promotion, right, right? 

 Mark 

Right, that's right. Yeah, there's a profit boost and there's odds boost. 

 Shane 

All right, so can you quickly explain what either one are basically or both of them are? 

 Mark 

Well, your profit boots are going to boost they're going to boost your profits by a percentage and your odds boost they're going to they're going to give you more odds. That's the quick sum of it. 

 Shane 

So, for instance, what's the current promos going on Betly, for Arkansas? 

 Mark 

So currently they have. I'm going to go over the profit boost for this week, so currently they have a + 20% profit boost. That's 20% on a 3 plus team. Parlay profit boost. That's what I used last week. It's still ongoing till the end of the month. They also have a + 10% on MLB college baseball live profit boost, so you gotta use that during live. That's plus 10%. That's good till the end of the month. 

 Shane 

OK. 

 Mark 

They have a + 10% on boogie, woogie, NASCAR and Formula One profit boost. That's also good until the end of the month. And then for all you CFL fans out there, they have a + 10% on profit boost as well, which runs through the end of the month. 

 Shane 

OK. 

 Mark 

So you've got a little bit for, a little bit of everybody in there. 

 Shane 

And it don't cost you anything extra to apply those boosts. 

 Mark 

No, no it does not. You don't have to be at a certain level or anything like that. 

 Mark 

That’s great. So, let's do one real quick. What we call our bet of the week. What out of all the stuff we see coming up this weekend. What do you think is the best bet going? 

 Mark 

So, mine kind of tie in with my with my 5 for five there.  

 Shane 

- Oh, McElroy? 

 Mark 

No no no no no. I wasn't that confident in that pick, but if I went with the Cardinals run line at minus 1.5 over the Cubs. I think that's a pick of the week right there for me. 

 Shane 

You know, I'm glad I didn't, I mean, I did initially circle that. And my. I don't know when you call it the discontent I had for the Pirates kind of doing me bad last week. I was like come on Tampa Bay Rays. Here at home minus 1.5, It's even money for that, but I really think I. I mean, if I bet 100 and you tell me you're going to give me basically my 100 + 100 back on something I feel really good about. I like that so you're not getting extraordinary odds by any stretch of the imagination, but I do like Tampa Bay minus 1.5 is my best bet out of that. Once again, I did put it in that five team. A $5 parlay as well. 

 Mark 

Right, right. We'll see how our little bit of the weeks go. You kind of keep a little tally. 

 Shane 

At least try to win one of the two, right? You got the parlay and then your bed of the week, right? 

 Mark 

That's right, we gotta we gotta show the folks we can pick something. 

 Shane 

Yeah, no kidding? 

 Shane 

Well, everybody that's going to wrap up the show. Episode two, season one of the Odd Brothers. From point spread Shane and money line Mark we'd like to thank you for listening. We're presented by Betly Sportsbook, place your bets here from inside the South and Casino or from anywhere in Arkansas at Southland.betly.com. Follow the Odds Brothers podcasts on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You must be 21 or older and located in Arkansas to bet. Keep in mind, play responsibly for help quitting, call 800-522-4700 till next Friday, Marcellus. 

 Mark 

Yes, Sir, we'll see you later.